Tue 11 Nov 2008
Mormon Church Violates The Deceased
Posted by obliv1on under Religion , culture , current affairs[5] Comments
The man in the picture above, Mormon Elder Lance B. Wickman is a total dickbag. The Mormon Church and Mr. Wickman continue a century old practice of allowing ‘living’ members of their church to baptize deceased members of their immediate family, regardless of the deceased religious or ethnic background. This blatant violation and desecration of the rights of the dead is a major problem for the Jewish relatives of some six million Holocaust survivors.
Ernest Michel, honorary chairman of the American Gathering of Holocaust Survivors is bullshit and had this say to about the Mormon practice of baptizing Jewish Holocaust victims.
“Baptism of a Jewish Holocaust victim and then merely removing that name from the database is just not acceptable….We ask you to respect us and our Judaism just as we respect your religion…We ask you to leave our six million Jews, all victims of the Holocaust, alone, they suffered enough.
The Mormon Church has not agreed to end the practice, nor are they planning to ‘undo’ the baptisms which were already performed and in my opinion Mormon Elder Lance B. Wickman and the Mormon Church should be prosecuted for crimes against the dead under the Geneva Convention. All persons killed during the Holocaust are war victims, so the Geneva Conventions are applicable in this situation and should be enforced.
The 1949 Geneva Conventions explicitly provide that prevailing forces must “search for the [enemy's] dead and prevent their being despoiled.” The conventions further require that enemy “dead are honorably interred, if possible according to the rites of the religion to which they belonged, that their graves are respected, grouped if possible according to the nationality of the deceased, properly maintained and marked so that they may always be found.” Violators have been convicted and imprisoned. Mr. Wickmen doesn’t care, because he and the rest of the Mormons are on a mission to save the souls of the wicked and damned.
Here are the Lamanites (dark skinned). . . Their wickedness was not so great as those [Jews] who slew the Son of God. Jesus revealed himself to them after he was slain, preached to them the Gospel. But in the fourth generation the Priesthood was driven from their midst, . . . Is their curse as great as that of those in Palestine? No, it is light, in comparison. They began to thirst for each other’s blood, and massacred each other, from generation to generation, until they sunk into wickedness, and evil principles the most degrading, and have become loathsome and vile. Still the curse will be removed from them before it will be removed from the children of Judah; and they will become “a white and delightsome people”
Brigham Young, Journal of Discourses, vol. 2
Did you hear that Mr. Wickman, you pathetic, self-righteous religious ideology pusher, have respect for the dead and their religion. If the Jews committed this type of act against dead Christians by performing an Immersion there would be an outcry and condemnation of all things Jewish. According to Mr. Wickman Jews and others should not be offended by this forced Baptism and furthermore people have no right to ask them to stop.
We don’t think any faith group has the right to ask another to change its doctrines….If our work for the dead is properly understood…it should not be a source of friction to anyone. It’s merely a freewill offering…the practice in no way imfringes upon a person’s Jewishness, or their ethnicity, or their background
Mr. Wickman how the hell does a deceased person assert freewill to be baptized? This is your freewill and just like Necrophilia is against the law, so should posthumous religious rituals that pervert the rights of the deceased. Even after agreeing to stop entering the names of Holocaust victims the Mormon church continued to do so after it was discovered by an independent examiner of the Mormon database. Wickman responded:
names have been entered into the database by a small number of well-meaning members who were acting “outside of policy.”
BULLSHIT! Your fanatical nutbag church was doing what zealot religious people all over the world do and that is impose your belief system on others through intimidation, murder and outright lack of respect for the wishes of others to be left alone. You suck Mr. Wickman and so does Davey and Goliath!
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February 3rd, 2009 at 12:18 pm
You are a fool! That is Dallin H. Oaks. You don’t even have the name of the Elder correct. Get your story straight.
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:49 pm
Thanks for the comment. The story is straight even if you say the photo isn’t (Wickman and Oaks look identical). Lance B. Wickman and the Mormons are religious bigots completely intolerant of the beliefs of both the living Jews who want them to stop and the dead who aren’t able to advocate for themselves.
April 2nd, 2009 at 9:53 am
Our spirits continue to live after death. Mormons perform the physical ordinances for the deceased since they cannot do it themselves. Their spirits have the ability to accept or reject the spiritual opportunities as they see fit. Mormons only offer the opportunities, they do not force it. You seem to have no problem speaking for the dead just as Mormons have no problem offering spiritual opportunities to the dead. Give the dead the respect to decide for themselves to accept or reject the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Take care.
April 16th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Thanks for the comment Joe. The Mormon’s can shove their supposed ’spiritual’ opportunity up their collective pompous ass. This isn’t some good deed. The Mormon faith is a complete farce predicated entirely upon money and at its core a bastardization of Judaism.
Mormons are intolerant of other religions, racist at its very foundation and have no respect for women. Jesus was a Jew and if he was really anything but an ordinary man, would strike down the Mormon leaders for this spiritual ‘Holocaust’.
May 3rd, 2010 at 3:19 pm
How ironic, a Jew of all people calling others greedy.